Andrew de la Bere


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Andrew de la Bere

  • Born: Burleton, Herfordshire, England
  • Marriage: Alice de Rocheford 721
  • Died: 1227, Burleton, Herfordshire, England721

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• From Gen-Medieval Archives. 193
Subject: de la Bere
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:08:33 EDT

Gordon Kirkemo has very kindly sent me a copy of an article in the Genealogist by G. Andrewes Moriarty, FSA, who gives the following account of the family of de la Bere:

Roger Berkeley de Dursley (IV) d.c.1191

Daughter Isabel=(1) Thomas de Rocheford and (2) <Michaelmas 1206 William de Walerond
[I have yet to trace references to Isabel's marriages]
By marriage (1) Isabel had a daughter Alice = (1) Andrew de la Bere and (2)
Alan de Plugenet
She was dead by 29th November 1233, when her son and heir Richard de la Bere was made a ward of the Bishop of Winchester: CCR 1231-4, 346,557
By marriage (1) Alice had a son and heir Richard de la Bere [as just
Richard's son Robert de la Bere held a knight's fee at Burleton of the Earl of Hereford, and the vill of Stratford in 1316 (Feud. Aids II, 376,387) Robert "probably" had a younger brother Richard, who married Cecily "evidently" the d. of James Bourne (IPM 1328 of John, son of Cecily, sometime wife of
Richard de la Bere).

Robert had a son Richard, who "fraudulently" claimed to be descended from a younger son of Andrew de la Bere, whose eldest son was allegedly Alan de Plugenet, ancestor of Joan, last of the Plugenets.

[The claim that Alan de Plugenet was the eldest son of Andrew de la Bere is evidently nonsense. But nevertheless I am inclined to think that the claim was not fraudulent. If, as stated, Alice de Rocheford was the mother both of Richard de le Bere and of Alan Plugenet, then on the death sp (and without closer heirs) of Joan Plugenet, descendant of Alice de Rocheford and Alan, the de la Bere heirs of Alan Plugenet's mother Alice de Rocheford would have been entitled to succeed, as in fact they did]

1346 Richard de la Bere held a knight's fee in Burleton, which Robert de la
once held (Feud Aids II, 391,393)
This Richard married Sibel, daughter of William de Chabbenor of Chadnor Hfs CPIII,149, This Richard was MP for Hds in 1353,1354, 1357-8, 1360 and 1369.

They had issue John, who apparently died vp.

[At this point I suggest that John married a Kinnersley heiress. If this
was not so, then two matters would remain unexplained|:-
1. Why would John's son be named "Kinnard",and
2. Why would the later de la Beres have owned Kinnersley/Kynardesley

John had issue Kinnard, and two daughters:-
Violette=1363 Sir John Chandos of Snodhill and Fownhope, dsp 16th December
1428 and Sibel=c.1370-72 Thomas de Crophull of Newbold Verdon, Leics, who d. <19th May 1382. This Thomas Crophull, son of Sir John Crophull and his wife Margaret, coheiress of Theobald, 2nd and last Lord Verdon, was the father of Agnes, wife of Sir Walter Devereux of Bodenham, slain at the battle of Pilleth, and ancestress of the later Devereux Earls of Essex, as well as the Mortons of Morton Corbet, the Leightons of Plash, Salo, and numerous other descendants of the Corbets).

The same information is in Boyer's Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, p. 23 721 Source cited: "the Family of de la Bere," The Genealogists' Magazine, Vol. X, pp. 412-41

• Web Reference
Intrigue in De La Bere Family

Andrew married Alice de Rocheford, daughter of Thomas de Rocheford and Isabel de Berkeley. (Alice de Rocheford died by 29 Nov 1233 in England.)

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