Robert Banastre
Robert Banastre
(-Bef 1199)
Thurstan Banastre
(-Abt 1218)


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Thurstan Banastre

  • Marriage: Cecilia
  • Died: Abt Sep 1218, Lancashire, England 763,845

bullet  General Notes:

~Ormerod's History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, vol. II, p. 574, Banastre, Lee & Hoghton, of Molynton Pedigree, p. 574-575, Thurstan Banastre, gave five hundred marks for an Inquisition to try whether the Makerfeld fee should descend to him from Robert his father, and Warrin his brother, 14 Oct 1213. He died about 1219. He married Cecily, who married, second Richard de Mohaut. 713

bullet  Noted events in his life were:

• Background Information. 756,762
The first Robert Banastre came into England at the Conquest, and held many lands, amongst the rest of Prestatyn in the part of North Wales called Englefield. The tower which was built there was destroyed when Owen Gwynedd, in 1167, when Owen Gwynedd, in 1167, recovered that country from the English. At this time Robert Banastre brought all his people into Lancashire.

We the find a Robert Banastre called a son, but is more likily a grandson, (Visitation of Lancashire calls him a son, pg. 16) of Robert Banastre, holding the fee of makerfield in the time of Henry II. And Henry de Lacie, who flourished in the reigns of Stephen and Henry II, granted to him "Walatum" and other lands, to be held by kinght's service.

Basnaste or Banastre and Benate, are words used in various parts of France, answering to the medieval Latin, "Banasta," "Banastum," and provincially, :Banasto," and having the meaning of Basket or creel, such as may be carried on the back, or slung in pairs, as dossera across a pack-saddle. Although there is no elevated origin for this family of feudal nobles, their patriarch appears on the Roll og Abbey, and one of whose scions ranks amongst the founders of the order of the Garter.

~Memorials of the Family of Langton of Kilkenny, p. 62
~Visitation of Lancashire, Vol I, pp. 15, 16, 19

• Background Information. 756,764
The Visitation of Lancashire, Part I, has in a footnote on page 126 " Philip de Orreby, justice of Chester, paid five hundred marcs for this privilege, on the death of their father Thurstan, abt 1218 or 1219 (3 Henry III).

"Thurstan was the third son of the earlier Robert Banastre, and had succeeded to the inheritance after the decease of his older brothers, Richard and Warren, the latter dying without issue in 1213.

In the publication, Lancashire Inquests, Extents, and Feudal Aids, page 147 contained in a footnote, it is stated "On July 16 1219, justiciar of Chester, fined by 50 marks to have the wardship and marriage of Robert, son of Thurstan Banastre, who attained his majority circa 1239. Robert Banastre and John, his heir, both died before 27 Feb 1241 when the . . ."

• Background Information. 823
Thurstan Banastre, in 1213, gave five hundred Marks to King John, to have an inquisition whether the land of Makerfield should descend to him on the part of Robert his father and Warin his brother. He married a woman named Cecilia and died 1218/19, leaving two sons:

Robert, who succeeded him
Thurstan, the ancestor of the Banastres of Bank, to whom his brother gave his lands of Newton, in Wirral Hundred, Cheshire.

~The Coucher Book, Or Chatulary of Whalley Abbey, Vol. I, p. 114

• Background Information. 185
An ancient pedigree of this family is preserved in a petition of the Rolls of Parliament. It beings with Robert de Banastre, who came with William the Conquer. He held Prestaty, one of the hundreds of Flintshire, under Robert de Ruelent. Robert de Banastre's son was also named Robert. This second Robert removed with all his people from the area in Wales and settled in Lancashire, where they are found holding extensive possession under the Earls of Chester. The younger Robert left sons, Richard, Warin and Thurstan. Warin Banastre was Baron of Newton during the reign of King John, of England. His brother Thurstan, or Thurstan's son Robert, succeeded him as the Baron of Newton when he died. Robert's granddaughter and heir, Alice Banastre, carried the barony to the Langtons.

~The Battle Abbey Roll, Vol. I., p. 124

Thurstan married Cecilia.


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