Colswein of Brattleby
(Abt 1055-)
Robert de la Haye
(-After 1135)
Muriel of Brattleby
(Abt 1085-)
Cecilia de la Haye

 

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Roger St. Jean

Cecilia de la Haye

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Cecilia de la Haye's parentage is confirmed by the charter dated May 1111 under which her maternal grandfather "Picotus filius Colwani Linc. cum uxore et quodam nepote…Ricardi et quadam nepte…Cecilia" donated revenue from "villa…Suttona et Luttona" to Spalding Monastery.

~Dugdale Monasticon III, Spalding Monastery, Lincolnshire, XII, p. 218. 1002

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• Background Information. 141
Roger de St. John married Cecily, daughter of Robert de la Haie, by Muriel, probably daughter of Colswegen, tenant-in-chief in Lincs in 1086 with whom he received the honor of Halnaker in Sussex. Roger died in or before 1130. His widow, Cecily, was living in 1162 and dead in 1177.

Besides his sons William and Robert, Roger de St. John had a daughter Muriel, who married an Orval and was the mother of Mabel, wife of Adam de Port of Basing, through whom both St-Jean-le-Thomas and the manor of Halnaker passed to that family.

~Cokayne's The Complet Peerage, Vol. XI, p. 342

According to the Fundationis Historia of Boxgrove [Dugdale, Mon., vol. iv, p. 646], Mabel was daughter of Rainald d'Orval by Muriel, daughter of Roger and sister of William and Robert de St. John. Round accepted this provisionally on the ground that the Historia was obviously more trustworthy than such narratives usually are. That Mabel was the heiress of Orval is certain, since a gift of William d'Orval to the abbey of Blanchelande was subsequently confirmed by Adam de Port and Mabel his wife as the gift of their predecessor [Archives de La Manche - Série H. Inventaire sommaire, vol. i., p.201; H. 1270].

It is equally certain that Halnaker came to Port through Mabel and her mother, and this being so the mother must have been a daughter of Roger and a sister of William and Robert de St. John, not only on chronological grounds but also because, if she had been of an earlier generation, Roger's brother John de St. John and his male issue would have inherited to her exclusion. Since the wife of Robert de la Haie was named Muriel and they were the parents of Cecily, Roger de St. John's wife, it is quite likely that Roger's daughter should have been named after her, and on this point one seems justified in accepting the statement of the Historia.

~Cokayne's The Complet Peerage, Vol. XI, pp. 320-321, footnote (f)


Cecilia married Roger St. Jean 141.,1002 (Roger St. Jean died 1130 or Before 1002.)


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