John de Deiville

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• Family Background. ¹⁴¹
Robert, father of Sir John d'Elville. was the son and heir of John de Daiville who was living in July 1228, and married. a daugther of Josceline de Louvain, by Agnes de Percy). [Patent Roll, 12 Hen. III, m. 3 d: Percy Cartulary, no. 14]. John was son and heir of Robert by Julian, his wife, living in Aug. 1202, who was son (or grandson) and heir of Robert de Daiville, to whom, as amico suo speciali, Nele d'Aubigny gave the vill of Egmanton. [Feet of Fines, case 261, file 4, no. 85: Monasticon, vol. v, p. 346, vol. vi, p. 320].

~Cokayne's Complete Peerage, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 131, footnote (a)

• Family Background: From GEN-MEDIEVAL-L Archives. ¹⁹³
From: Therav3@aol.com <John Ravilious>
Subject: Identification of Julian(a), wife of Robert de Daiville
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:32:42 -0400

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1.2.1.1 John De Daiville
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Death: aft Jun 1228[1]
of Egmanton, Notts.[1]

claimed to be (an) heir of his uncle, Walter de Montfort (R. Bevan, citing Curia Regis Roll, vol. ix, p. 291)[4]

his maternity as indicated was originally based on:

1) CP Vol. IV p. 131 note a (simply calls her 'Julian')[1]
2) Analysis and cites by Rosie Bevan, showing that the holdings of Langford, co. Notts. of the maritagium (modified) of Robert de Daiville's first wife were NOT inherited by John de Daiville[2]


Spouse: Maud de Percy
Father: Joscelin of Louvain (-ca1180)
Mother: Agnes de Percy (-<1204)

Children: Sir Robert (->1242)
Henry
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1. "The Complete Peerage," G. E. Cokayne, 1910 - [microprint, 1982 (Alan Sutton) ], The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
2. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Stuteville of Cottingham," September 8, 2002, paper copy: library of John P. Ravilious, citations from Rosie Bevan : rbevan@paradise.net.nz, cites Clay, Early Yorkshire Charters vlx no. 17.
3. "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516," www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/, extracted 5 Nov 2001, Wiltshire [Bassett], Yorkshire [Salvain] - North Duffield.
4. Rosie Bevan, "Re: de Montfort connections (2)," September 11, 2002, paper copy: library of John P. Ravilious, citations from Rosie Bevan : rbevan@paradise.net.nz, cites Curia Regis Roll, vol. ix p. 291, which identifies living descendants of Thurstan de Montfort, who came forward claiming to be heirs of Walter de Montfort.

John married Maud de Percy, daughter of Joscelin de Louvain and Agnes de Percy. (Maud de Percy was born in Petworth, Susex, England.)