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John de Chesney

  • Marriage: Sybil

bullet  Noted events in his life were:

• Background Information. 1262
The lands of Ralph de Chesney passed to his son Ralph and grandson John, who was living in 1147, but the three sons of John dying without issue Streat and his other manors came to his daughter Alice and by marriage to Geoffrey son of William de Say. Alice died before 1199, and her husband in 1214, when his lands were inherited by their son Geoffrey, who died in 1230. William de Say, his son, died seised of the manor in 1272, and was succeeded by his son William, who died in 1295. His son and grandson, both named Geoffrey, died respectively in 1322 and 1359, the latter leaving an elder son William.

~A History of the County of Sussex. Vol. VII, pp. 113-115

• Background Information. From Some corrections and additions to the Complete Peerage: Volume 11: Say :

Round established a century ago that Alice was a daughter and coheir of John de Chesney [Genealogist, new series, vol. 18, p. 9 (1902), citing Dugdale's comments based on the cartulary of Coxford (Baronage, vol. 1, pp. 511, 614)]. John de Chesney was the son of Ralph de Chesney, and the grandson of another Ralph. The cartulary of Merton Priory records that Hugh Maminot gave the manor of Petham (Kent) to Ralph de Chesney in marriage with his daughter Alice [L. F. Salzman, Sussex Arch. Coll., vol. 65, pp. 21, 22 (1924), citing British Library Cotton MS Cleopatra C VI, no 69]. Chronologically, this would be John's father rather than his grandfather. (As Salzman points out, according to a Lewes manuscript, Ralph was predeceased by a wife named Emma - Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum, vol. 5, p. 14 (1817-30 edn) - so it is possible that the Merton cartulary is wrong in calling Hugh Maminot's daughter Alice - Keats-Rohan (Domesday Descendants, p. 369) apparently takes this view.)

John married Sybil.

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